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SIM Council Meeting
May 05th , 2004
CENAM
Querétaro - Mexico
DRAFT MINUTES
ATTENDANCE LIST
COUNCIL MEMBERS
Oscar Harasic Executive Secretary, OAS,
representing SIM President
Yoshito Mitani, Chairman, SIM PDC, CENAM
Steve Carpenter Technical Advisor, NIST
Luis Mussio Technical Committee Chair / JCRB
Representative
Luis Carlos Gomes On behalf of Past
President, INMETRO
On behalf of SURAMET Coordinator
Haygas Kalustian On behalf of ANDIMET
Coordinator,
Miguel Tevez On behalf of CAMET Coordinator
Hermon Edmondson CARIMET Coordinator
Jim Pekelsky On behalf of NORAMET
Coordinator
Anna Camboim SIM Recording Secretary,
INMETRO
Malcolm Smith NCSL International
OBSERVERS
Jose Ricardo Silva INMETRO, Brasil
César Luis Silva INMETRO, Brasil
Hamilce Observatório Nacional, Brasil
William Anderson NIST, USA, QSTF Chairman
Sally Bruce NIST, EUA
AGENDA
1. Introduction and Welcome /
Introducción y Bienvenida
2. Verification of Quorum / Verificación de
Quórum
3. Approval of Agenda / Aprobación de Agenda
4. Approval of the Minutes from previous
Council Meeting /
Aprobación de la Acta de la Reunión Anterior
del Consejo
5. Matters arising from the Minutes /
Asuntos derivados de la Acta
6. Report on execution of Project 2003 /
Infome de ejecución del proyecto 2003
7. Definition of SIM Activities with the
2004 OAS Project, including GA/ Definición
de las actividades del SIM con el Proyecto
de la OEA 2004, incluyendo AG
8. SIM participation at NCSLI /
Participación de SIM en el NCSLI
9. Report from SIM Representative to JCRB /
Informe del Representante del SIM en el JCRB
10. Report from QSTF activities / Reporte
del QSTF
11. OAS project preparation for 2005-2008 /
Preparación del Proyecto de OAS para
2005-2008
12. SIM-MRA / ARM en SIM
13. On the SIM Presidential Election / Sobre
la Elección de Presidente del SIM
14. Financial Reports / Reportes Financieros
15. Report from the General Assembly Working
Group / Reporte del Grupo de Trabajo de la
Asamblea General
16. Other Business / Otros Asuntos
Meeting:
1. Introduction and Welcome / Introdución
y Bienvenida
Oscar Harasic welcomed Council Members,
on behalf of SIM President, whose absence
was justified due to appointments previously
settled.
2. Verification of Quorum / Verificación
de Quórum
The quorum was verified, 10 out of 14
members of Council being present.
3. Approval of Agenda / Aprobación de la
Agenda
The agenda was approved, with no
amendments.
4. Approval of the minutes from previous
Council Meeting
Comments to the minutes:
- On item .., it was proposed by Steve
Carpenter where it is read…. , it should be
read "elections only".
The minutes of previous Council Meeting,
held in Costa Rica in February, were
approved with this amendment.
5. Matters arising from the minutes
Luis Mussio mentioned that there are
still some pending issues within TC and JCRB
activities, like:
1) Paper describing SIM activities on BIPM;
2) Directory updating and formatting: it was
suggested to replace it for Jim Pekeslky
list;
3) Scholarship procedures - Harasic should
present a proposal by the end of this month;
6. Report on execution of Project 2003
Steve Carpenter made a brief presentation
about Project 2003 - a report was sent to
members in advance.
There were no difficulties in Project 2003
execution. The project was supported by OAS,
who requested an auditing after its
conclusion. A private consultant was hired.
After having gathered information, the
report was presented to OAS. The final
conclusion was that the project was
considered successful and it will be used as
a model to similar activities. Some of the
activities considered did not reflect SIM
activities as a whole. It indicates that it
shall be part of the drafts for the next
meeting in November. It will be verified how
much OAS shall contribute for the best use
of SIM members resources.
7. Definition of SIM Activities with the
2004 OAS Project, including GA
Further analysis about the General Assembly
shall be discussed in item 15.
YoshitoMitani explained that some
alterations in the calendar of subregional
seminars have been made for ANDIMET, CARIMET
and SURAMET. In Bolivia there will be two
courses - one about thermometry and
esfignomanometers. Haygas Kalustián supplied
some information about the original
seminars' agenda and suggested the
participation of Felipe Urresta, César Luis,
Yoshito Mitani and Steve Carpenter.
Steve Carpenter informed that he will not be
able to attend the seminar but he offered
his presentation, in case it is necessary.
Haygas mentioned that subregional planning
meeting will not be necessary in June, 2004
for ANDIMET.
Yoshito Mitani then mentioned that he has
not yet received the confirmation from
Bolivia's representative on the date and the
program, but based on the discussion he will
recommend to Bolivía to organize onlt legal
metrology courses with the participation of
PTB experts. César Luis informed that the
name of Inmetro's representative has not
been defined yet. Hermon Edmondson informed
the same situation for CARIMET subregional
meeting programmed for June.
Luis Mussio then informed that SIM will fund
the participation in events, including
EUROMET.
It was discussed the SIM participation in
many events throughout the year, like APMP,
OIML. Steve Carpenter shall request Willie
May to represent SIM at APMP meeting and
Cesar Luis will be SIM representative at
OIML meeting.
8. SIM participation at NCSLI
Oscar Harasic invited Malcolm to make a
presentation about SIM participation at
NCSLI. He then explained about the change of
NCSL's name, which is now NCSLI because
every year the number of international
participants in the organisation has been
increasing. He also mentioned that due to a
limited number of its staff, sometimes they
face some organisational problems. He also
mentioned that in the last seminar there
were around 115 participants, most of which
were US and Canada representatives. SIM
could, then, act for the inclusion of other
members in NCSLI. Malcolm informed about the
Board representatives and named the
organisations. He also emphasised the
importance of NMIs for the organisation, as
they are responsible for the measurement
chain and traceability.
He then informed that NCSLI is being
organised in all regions throughout the
world and he offered himself to supply more
information of the role of NCSLI in other
regions for those who are interested.
Malcon also informed that NCSLI work with
laboratories in different areas, like
chemical metrology, for example. In his
point of view, this is a very important task
that is being taken by NCSLI and such
actions have been managed quite
successfully.
He then described some other NCSLI
activities. The first one is the Conference
itself and a trade show, connected to the
conference. There has also been some
tutorial programmes, that are supplied by
volunteers. They have been implemented in
South and Central America, as well as in
Japan.
There is also the publication of a
newsletter, four times a year, concerning
information about events, papers, regional
reports, etc. Luis Mussio then added that
there is an initiative to provide the
translation of some documents to Spanish.
Malcon also informed that he will be taking
part at SIM General Assembly in Venezuela
and that NCSLI participation will be
deepened. He also thanked Oscar Harasic for
the opportunity.
9. Report from SIM Representative to JCRB
Luis Mussio made a brief report, summarising
his participation at JCRB.
10. Report from QSTF activities
Anderson made a presentation about the
approval of quality systems of NMIs. CENAM,
NIST and Inmetro have had their quality
systems approved, after some discussions.
CMCs must have their quality systems
documented by December, 31st and presented
at JCRB next year.
Yoshito mentioned that, during PDC-TC
meetings, some countries informed about the
progress they made and that some further
activities need to be implemented to help
them to continue progressing.
Hermon Edmondson said that Jamaica has not
signed the MRA yet but they shall be able to
do it next year.
César Luis mentioned that OIML MRA has a
model document for their approval and its
appendix deals with a checklist for quality
systems that could be very helpful for
helping other countries to implement their
quality systems.
11. OAS project preparation for 2005-2008
Oscar Harasic requested Steve Carpenter to
present the document concerning the Project
with its description and objectives. Steve
informed that the report will be included in
the minutes, emphasising that the project
referred to the implementation of what had
already been proposed. By the end of May,
the final version of the project will be
presented to OAS.
He mentioned that the new proposal is quite
different than the original one, as it dealt
with the implementation of a measurement
infrastructure in Americas and now the new
project deals with the improvement of
existing infrastructures.
He also explained the conditions for
funding. He mentioned that some urgent
conditions (like hurricanes, disasters,
etc.) make OAS prioritise the countries
affected. He then emphasised the necessity
of support letters to the project. He
requested all representatives to report to
their institutions about this necessity.
Oscar Harasic will send a model letter for
all NMIs and the names to whom the letters
shall be transmitted.
Steve Carpenter also emphasised that within
the project for 2005, SIMnet shall deserve a
special attention and the magazine INFOSIM
will have a programme for its outreach
publicity and promotion.
Luis Mussio then raised the point that there
have been many critics concerning the
quantity of resources spent for the
participation in meetings.
Steve then explained that there is a
specific percentage for travel expenses, for
equipments, training and others. They try to
keep the consistence of such percentages but
if any of them exceeeds another one,
resources can be transferred from one
category to another.
All of these are basic anticipated
information about the budget. But only by
the end of the year we will have the full
information about it.
Jim raised the question of the maintenance
of the budget or if there is any chance that
there is a change in the budget. He also
raised the question of the possibility that
OAS funds may finish and possible
consequences to SIM. Steve then explained
that SIM has been created by NMIs and thus,
the organization will be maintained
independently of OAS.
Oscar Harasic then remarked that SIM Project
has an excellent image inside OAS, as
everybody agrees that metrology is a very
important issue.
12. SIM MRA
Luis Mussio remarked that during JCRB
meeting there was a discussion about the MRA
importance.
Nava Jaimes reinforced the MRA importance as
it could contribute for the implementation
and capacitation of laboratories. As not
every SIM member is a BIPM member, the MRA
is essential for minimizing some
disadvantages among countries. Dianne Lalla
Rodriguez supported the remark.
13. On the SIM Presidential Election
Oscar Harasic reminded Council members that
the presidency period is expiring and that
we should initiate the search for
candidates.
Luis Mussio informed that, in accordance to
SIM statute, the letter calling for the
election will be sent within three months of
advance - in July.
14. Financial Reports
Steve Carpenter explained that only six
months before the end of the fiscal year it
will be possible to present financial
reports. The subject will be discussed
againg later then.
15. Report from the General Assembly Working
Group
The agenda for the General Assembly is
under preparation and the proposed date is
October 31st to November 06th.
In parallel to the General Assembly, there
will be a QSTF meeting. There will also be
meeting of chemical metrology and SIM
sub-regions. Haygas Kalustián presented some
themes that shall be discussed during the
events, like chemical metrology in food
safety. Institutios should send specialists
in the subjects to follow the discussions.
He also requested Council members to make
some more suggestions and comments on the
themes to be covered by the discussions, but
this should be done as soon as possible
since the organization will have to make the
necessary arrangements.
The Council discussed the various dates and
activities for the SIM week and some
proposals were made. After the agenda is
concluded it will be send to all SIM
Members.
16. Other Business / Otros Asuntos
Steve Carpenter informed that Luis Mussio
was confirmed as JCRB representative and
remarked that Hratch Semerjian was his
alternate but, as he had to leave SIM
activities, William Anderson was indicated
in his place.
Luis Mussio then proposed to change the Mass
Working Group Chair to Dr. Claude Jacques of
NRC. Jim indicated that this scientist of
NRC is involved in the mass programme of the
institute. Much information was given about
the scientist and then he was accepted as
the new Mass Working Group Chair.
Luis Mussio then presented the changes made
to the QSTF document and informed that all
changes were approved.
Hermon Edmondson then requested the Council
to send a letter to CROSSQ to help CARIMET
members to be able to participate in the
meetings of the organization, as they have
no conditions of attending their meetings.
Oscar Harasic requested some more
information about the organization. After
giving some details about CROSSQ, Hermon
Edmondson informed that CARIMET is trying to
be accepted as CROSSQ member.
Dianne Lalla Rodriguez mentioned that CROSSQ
has never recognized CARIMET and for that
SIM President would have to recognize
CARIMET as a regional organization for
metrology. Haygas Kalustián then suggested
that this matter should be discussed during
the General Assembly. Dianne Lalla Rodrigues
mentioned that the subject had already been
formally discussed in Chile, but Luis Mussio
then remarked that there was no referrence
to the subject in the minutes and the matter
shall be discussed during next General
Assembly.
Oscar Harasic thanked Hector Nava Jaimes for
Mexico's hospitality and Luis Mussio made a
special appreciation to Yoshito Mitani, for
the whole organization. Hector Nava Jaimes
thanked everybody for their presence.
Having no more subjects to be discussed, the
meeting was closed.

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